Do Real Reporters Exist Around Here?
According to this KUWS story, we have proof positive that the mainstream media doesn't accurately cover the race for the 7th District. The reporter thinks Dave Robinson is still in the race for the Republican nomination. He dropped out a while back and endorsed Nick Reid. We talked to the Reid campaign and they confirmed that KUWS got the press release.
posted by ObeyOut2006 at 8:43 AM
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Obviously not. This is why most of the district doesn't know how bad Obey's record really is. I saw both candidates at the Dairy Breakfeast in Marshfield, and the Reid campaign sure had a lot of volunteers....
from what I've seen, the Reid campaign out volunteers, out signs and out pretty much everything the Tyberg campaign . . . it's too bad that Nick will have to spend money to beat Tyberg in the primary when he could save it for Obey.
The Reid campaign had one, maybe two, volunteers at the Dairy Breakfast in Marshfield - plus another one if you count his wife. Although he did comandeer a table that wasn't set up for him. I saw as many helping Tyberg. And I don't think it should be all about money. Both men are men of integrity, both men have a vision for the future of Wisconsin that includes the people of Wisconsin, and either one would be better for us than Obey. But think on this. With the people in Washington donating to the Reid campaign, who is he going to owe if he gets elected? The people of Wisconsin or the people in Washington?
Your thoughts on where Nick's money is coming from would be more applicable if Tyberg had raised any money.
The point you make undercuts what you said above: If Reid is a man of integrity, (as you have conceded) and has a vision for Wisconsin that includes the people, (as you also have conceded) then your point about the "people in Washington" is wrong...Instead, think on this: By making all these ludicrous points which ultimately lead down a road no one wishes to travel, you are making it ten times harder to unite the base after the primary. If you are a Tyberg supporter, my friend, do Wisconsin a favor and don't spread your attitude around. WE CANNOT AFFORD IT.
Right. I'm making it hard? Neat accusation considering the comments on an "Obey Out" blog are mostly directed against Tyberg. Now who's splitting things up? And what makes my points ludicrous? The fact they don't conform to yours? Maybe you're in the wrong party? Yes. Come primary time, I will support Tyberg. Both are good candidates. But in talking with and listening to both of them, I feel Tyberg more represents ME. A Wisconsin voter. A guy who doesn't have much money himself. A guy who has fallen on hard times and feels drawn to the more common man. I think the primary system is messed up here in Wisconsin, but until that changes I have the right to say what I want without people telling me to keep my opinions to myself. If I wanted a candidate that was all for suppression of opinions, I would be voting Democrat.
Nick doesn't represent the common man and Tyberg does? Nick's dad worked in the unions to put food on his family's table, Nick worked in the unions to pay his way through college. Nick gave up a good paying job in Washington to come back and represent the people just like you. If he was so Washington, why didn't he just stay there and work his way up the ladder to making a lot more money than a Congressman makes? Why, because he wanted to come home and beat a guy who is completely opposite of us. Tyberg was a missionary and an assistant manager at a coffee shop. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make him more representative of us.
What you're essentially doing is throwing your support behind a guy who clearly does not know what it takes to win in November. Sure, Tyberg's a good guy, but you have to be more than a good guy to win. You have to raise money for starters. Every day Tyberg stays in the race makes it one day harder for Nick to beat Dave Obey because Nick's having to run two races, a primary and a general. If he could just run the general, he'd have a shot. All Tyberg's presence does it makes that shot harder.
maybe the fact that most of the comments here are pro-Reid should tell you something about the level of support for Reid versus Tyberg.
Listen...about the money issue. For 37 years now Republicans have tried the "we don't need money to beat Obey" theory. It doesn't work. Wisconsin's seventh district doesn't have a lot of money, and since there has never been a great candidate in 37 years, most people have never been asked to donate to a congressional campaign. Obey has $800,000 in his war chest. A supermajority of that comes from out of district and from interest groups. If we want to believe that we are going to win this race by raising money in district alone, you are most definitely living under a rock.
To those who think Tyberg has a chance: How do you logically compete with $800,000 when you have less than $5,000? How do you compete with 37 years of political experience when you have none? Sheer logic would leave anyone to believe Tyberg has no chance. We are going to LOSE this race and have it go down in history as one more time we lost to Obey. That is, unless we get united and start taking this seriously.
I understand how you feel, Mr. Tyberg supporter, and it really is not my intention to browbeat you or any other supporter of Tyberg....Its just frustrating to see folks putting off a decision that could help all of us in the long run. You may have the right to put it off, but to me, it is responsible to not put it off.
In the '96 presidential elections, Pat Buchanan was the candidate who fit ME. He did not win the primary, so I had to throw my support behind Dole. I wasn't thrilled with Dole, mostly because of suspicions that turned out to be false. I think there are similar suspicions about Reid, and they are false as well. And, if there really is no difference between the candidates philosophically (which I think both Jeff and Reid have said), then why wouldn't you go with a candidate that has both the philosophy and the sufficient factors to win? We are, after all, on the same side. Don't you think so? In my experience, a voter has to have the foresight to make the decision, even though he/she may not like that decision.
Finally, I would urge everyone in this debate to be very careful as they discuss. We don't want anyone to become bitter. WE CANNOT AFFORD IT.
I agree strongly with the last post. We don't need to sling mud against two good guys. But facts are facts. Jeff has not raised any money, he can't run any tv ads, or send out any larg mailing throughout the campaign. That means that no matter how good his message is, he can't deliever it to the voters. That is why money matters. Since we have two good conservative candidates, the decision is really only about which one can win. Nick has not raised as much money as Obey but he is raising enough to compete.
You make a good point, Mr. Buchanan supporter. But the true fact is, I am a bit disillusioned by the anti-Tyberg sentiment on what should be an anti-Obey blog. Case-in-point is the comments under the ICYMI - Dave Obey's a Liberal post. What in the world does a petition against Tyberg have to do with the contents of the story? Nothing! It is just more mud-slinging. And I thought we (Republicans) were the good guys.
And my point about the number of volunteers at the Marshfield Dairy Breakfast was not yet refuted. Is that because someone embelished the facts to make Reid look good and had nothing to say when the real facts came out? Again, that is the sort of thing I would expect from the other side. Being an honorable person, those sort of tactics turn me right off.
I will be far more able to take a closer look at Reid when there is no mud-slinging at Tyberg than otherwise.
I was at the Marshfield Dairy Breakfast. What was wrong with Reid? He had great support, he was active and he had volunteers.
I wasn't at the Marshfield breakfast, so I can't comment on volunteers, but I can comment on mudslinging.
What is being said here isn't mudslinging. Commenting on the number of volunteers or signs or money one candidate has or doesn't equal mudslinging.
If someone here called Reid or Tyberg a racist or something along those lines, that's mudslinging.
Sorry, but the person accusing others of mudslinging is just coming off as defensive.
I was at the Marshfield Dairy Breakfeast collecting signatures for one of our local candidates, and I can say without a doubt the Reid people got way more signatures than the Tyberg folks. Quick thinking got them a table and they had a line of people. Nothing against Tyberg just good job to them.
News Flash: This is about beating Dave Obey! This is about giving the long suffering people of the 7th district a real voice in Congress! Not about Jeff or Nick. So what we have to do is decide which one of them can best do that. And the answer is clearly Ried. He has the fundraising, staff, and experience to run a real campaign against Obey. It's not personal it's just fact. And because I'm a Republican I make my choices on facts, not emotion.
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