The Left Wing Leader
At least on the blogs anyway, the Blue Team Leader of the Liberals is DailyKos. Red State takes him to task here. Basically, Kos, Obey and the Liberal Left have a wrong-headed view of the world.
Kos said-
CT-Sen: Lieberman is seriously unhinged by kosFri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:11:58 PM PDT
Seriously, I really do want to get my vacation started. But how can you ignore things like this?
"I'm worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don't appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us -- more evil, or as evil, as Nazism and probably more dangerous than the Soviet Communists we fought during the long Cold War," Mr. Lieberman said.
More evil than the guys who gassed 6 million Jews?
More dangerous than the guys who had thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at us and could've snuffed out all life on the planet at the press of a button?
Lieberman has lost it. Completely and utterly. He is insane.
Red state responds -
Leave it to our friends on the left to fail to understand that the guys we are fighting certainly would gas six million Jews, if they could get their hands on them, to fail to understand that if the guys we are fighting had thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at us, would actually use them.
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But when we see an Islamist culture that can produce suicide bombers, men willing, happily apparently, to kill themselves as long as they can take some Westerners with them, a reasonable person would have to ask whether the specter of nuclear retaliation by American ICBMs and SLBMs would deter Osama bin Laden -- or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Think about Hezbollah. Hamas had captured an Israeli soldier less than two weeks prior to Hezbollah doing the same thing. The Israelis reacted very decisively against Hamas on the Gaza border; they didn't respond like milquetoast liberals, wringing their hands and saying how terrible it was. Hezbollah's leaders knew that capturing Israeli soldiers along the Lebanese border would result in the same thing, although Hezbollah's leaders might not have guessed quite how strongly Israel would respond. Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah knew that Israel would go after them militarily, and knew that, since they were hiding in areas populated by non-combatants, a lot of those non-combatants would get killed.
If Sheikh Nasrallah (and his Iranian puppeteers) were willing to sacrifice civilians in southern Lebanon to set off an engagement they cannot, and know they cannot, win militarily, why ought we to think that the same logic that kept Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev from sending nuclear weapons our way would deter the Islamist leaders, if they had those weapons?
Der Führer took power in 1933; he didn't start gassing and burning Jews and a few other chosen enemies for more than six years. He did, however, make quite clear how he felt about Jews, in writing, for everyone to see, well before he took power. President Ahmadinejad hasn't started killing Jews (or Christians) yet, but he has certainly told us how he feels about them. Senator Lieberman knows enough about history (more, apparently, than Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, who writes as Kos) to see what could be coming, from a man who says, openly, that Israel should not exist, and runs a country apparently attempting to build nuclear weapons, and realize that such a threat must be taken seriously before it becomes an unmanagable one.
Had the civilized world reacted to Adolf Hitler in 1935 or 1936, the way it should have reacted, had Neville Chamberlain not gone crawling to Munich to seek "peace in our time" in 1938, the horrors of World War II, at least in Europe, might have been avoided.
Our Jewish friends have had this lesson seared into their collective consciences; Senator Lieberman has the good sense to recognize the threat and want to address the threat, today, while the threat is still a bit away, rather than to wait until the devil is on our doorstep.
By September of 1939, the British, who had thought that Winston Churchill was just out of it when he was warning about Adolf Hitler years earlier, realized that he had been right all along. Had action been taken on Mr Churchill's advice years earlier, millions who were killed would not have been killed -- but the world would have no way of knowing it. Instead, the peace at any price types held sway, and the world found out -- the hard way -- that Mr Churchill was right all along.
Since the Republicans didn't put up a credible candidate in Connecticut (what a mistake), we say, "Go Joe."
Kos said-
CT-Sen: Lieberman is seriously unhinged by kosFri Aug 11, 2006 at 12:11:58 PM PDT
Seriously, I really do want to get my vacation started. But how can you ignore things like this?
"I'm worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don't appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us -- more evil, or as evil, as Nazism and probably more dangerous than the Soviet Communists we fought during the long Cold War," Mr. Lieberman said.
More evil than the guys who gassed 6 million Jews?
More dangerous than the guys who had thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at us and could've snuffed out all life on the planet at the press of a button?
Lieberman has lost it. Completely and utterly. He is insane.
Red state responds -
Leave it to our friends on the left to fail to understand that the guys we are fighting certainly would gas six million Jews, if they could get their hands on them, to fail to understand that if the guys we are fighting had thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at us, would actually use them.
More -
But when we see an Islamist culture that can produce suicide bombers, men willing, happily apparently, to kill themselves as long as they can take some Westerners with them, a reasonable person would have to ask whether the specter of nuclear retaliation by American ICBMs and SLBMs would deter Osama bin Laden -- or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Think about Hezbollah. Hamas had captured an Israeli soldier less than two weeks prior to Hezbollah doing the same thing. The Israelis reacted very decisively against Hamas on the Gaza border; they didn't respond like milquetoast liberals, wringing their hands and saying how terrible it was. Hezbollah's leaders knew that capturing Israeli soldiers along the Lebanese border would result in the same thing, although Hezbollah's leaders might not have guessed quite how strongly Israel would respond. Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah knew that Israel would go after them militarily, and knew that, since they were hiding in areas populated by non-combatants, a lot of those non-combatants would get killed.
If Sheikh Nasrallah (and his Iranian puppeteers) were willing to sacrifice civilians in southern Lebanon to set off an engagement they cannot, and know they cannot, win militarily, why ought we to think that the same logic that kept Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev from sending nuclear weapons our way would deter the Islamist leaders, if they had those weapons?
Der Führer took power in 1933; he didn't start gassing and burning Jews and a few other chosen enemies for more than six years. He did, however, make quite clear how he felt about Jews, in writing, for everyone to see, well before he took power. President Ahmadinejad hasn't started killing Jews (or Christians) yet, but he has certainly told us how he feels about them. Senator Lieberman knows enough about history (more, apparently, than Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, who writes as Kos) to see what could be coming, from a man who says, openly, that Israel should not exist, and runs a country apparently attempting to build nuclear weapons, and realize that such a threat must be taken seriously before it becomes an unmanagable one.
Had the civilized world reacted to Adolf Hitler in 1935 or 1936, the way it should have reacted, had Neville Chamberlain not gone crawling to Munich to seek "peace in our time" in 1938, the horrors of World War II, at least in Europe, might have been avoided.
Our Jewish friends have had this lesson seared into their collective consciences; Senator Lieberman has the good sense to recognize the threat and want to address the threat, today, while the threat is still a bit away, rather than to wait until the devil is on our doorstep.
By September of 1939, the British, who had thought that Winston Churchill was just out of it when he was warning about Adolf Hitler years earlier, realized that he had been right all along. Had action been taken on Mr Churchill's advice years earlier, millions who were killed would not have been killed -- but the world would have no way of knowing it. Instead, the peace at any price types held sway, and the world found out -- the hard way -- that Mr Churchill was right all along.
Since the Republicans didn't put up a credible candidate in Connecticut (what a mistake), we say, "Go Joe."
posted by ObeyOut2006 at 8:21 AM
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